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As I see it we have 3 statements in this thread from people who have talked to Sinco about it:
- Alex guesses it's similar to the Katsutadai works pipe
- Flawles has said the bottom flange will be factory 3"
- Flawles then said it will be like the HPI outlet pipe
To me these are dump pipes:
![Image](http://iforce.co.nz/i/xjsslpor.pwa.jpg)
Whereas this is the HPI pipe and what I would call a turbo outlet pipe, turbo elbow pipe or whatever (and what it seems Sinco is going to make):
![Image](http://iforce.co.nz/i/zkaqt5t5.dgb.jpg)
My thoughts are:
- If Sinco is remaking the cast elbow then it's not very similar to the Katsutadai dump pipe; which replaces the elbow, the triangle flange, the skinny 2.25" pipe and the nasty power choking catalytic converter.
- If it's going to be a factory fit then the bottom flange can't be 'factory 3"' because it won't work with the factory gasket setup, as well as introducing some turbulence when a 3" pipe flows into 2.25" factory pipe (it might be 2.5", it's a few months since I measured it all up).
- We may as well get him to either: a) make the next section as well so it becomes a 2 piece full dump pipe (picture below) - this means it can be 3" all the way down; it'll be a little easier to fit the elbow onto the turbo then bolt the next piece on; people who just want the elbow can just purchase that; those of you who like hugging trees can keep your catalytic converter - or b) make it as a one piece full dump pipe like the bottom pipe in the first picture (most likely cheaper than making the 2 piece?)
![Image](http://iforce.co.nz/i/dyc0lqa0.ste.jpg)
Last but not least, thanks to those organising with Sinco to get us some high quality go fast bits.